Beyond Hope Project with Jason Tharp

How Assumptions Steal Your Joy: A Personal Journey to Finding Hope and Resilience

Beyond Hope Project Episode 54

In this heartfelt solo episode of the Beyond Hope Project, Jason Tharp, the “Champion of Hope,” shares a deeply personal story about how assumptions and false narratives can rob us of joy and peace. Reflecting on his battle with a brain tumor, Jason discusses how his mind leapt to the worst-case scenario when faced with a seemingly unrelated health issue. Discover how Jason learned to confront his fears, challenge assumptions, and stay focused on spreading hope. This episode is a powerful reminder to stop letting assumptions control your life and to start embracing the strength within you to create the life you deserve. Tune in to find inspiration, resilience, and the tools to overcome your own self-limiting stories.

Three Bullet Point Topics:

 • How to Stop Letting Assumptions Control Your Life: Jason’s Personal Experience
 • Embracing Uncertainty: The Journey from Fear to Hope and Resilience
 • The Power of Changing Your Narrative: Finding Joy Beyond Assumptions

Powerful Quote:

“Stop building walls that hinder your growth; instead, find the courage to tear them down and discover the amazing person you are meant to be.” - Jason Tharp

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MEET JASON:

Hi, I’m Jason!
Ever since I was six, I knew I was born to tell stories. As a best-selling author, illustrator, and sought-after speaker, I've turned my personal battles with grade four brain cancer, obesity, and negative self-talk into fuel for transformation. My keynotes don't just talk—they spark potential, ignite creativity, and build resilience. If you're ready for an engaging experience that challenges the status quo and propels your organization to new heights, let's turn your 'impossible today' into 'possible tomorrow' together!

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hey guys it's Jason and welcome to the


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Beyond hope project I am the champion of


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Hope and I am here to hopefully deliver


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some hope to you uh before we jump in uh


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make sure you're you're sharing this


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with everybody um we're really trying to


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grow this and I need your help and I'm


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going to leave it at that and I want to


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jump into this episode uh which is the


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whole idea how we let assumptions steal


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our joy and I have a little story about


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myself that is going to hopefully tie a


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big bow on this for you to understand um


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how far we can let our assumptions just


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take us and hopefully you hear a little


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bit of yourself in this story as I go


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through um for you so as you're well


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aware of um I was diagnosed in July 12


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2021 with a a grade four gleo blastoma


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uh it's a little bit of brain cancer um


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doing great though all clear still all


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that good stuff like that everything is


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doing awesome um and you know you would


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think after three plus years that I


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would kind of get used to things you


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know feeling weird sometimes um you I


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will say the one thing that is uh


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surprisingly uh shockingly whatever to


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me is like how


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much I am aware of when my body goes go


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one way or the other um and I'm


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typically pretty good at catching it and


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realizing the story as I'm starting to


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tell myself uh but there's sometimes


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where some things kind of sneak on by


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and a story starts to form um to give a


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little context for this it's about the


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silliness that you know um this


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misguided assumption did um and when I


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tell you what it is you're you're gonna


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kind of giggle because it's it is the uh


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it's the simplest craziest thing but it


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I'll tell you why um it makes sense and


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hopefully you'll see how this played out


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so little bit about me so I uh about a


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month before I was diagnosed with the


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tumor I had a cataract in my right eye


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now was weird about this was this catar


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kind of flared up out of nowhere um it


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could have been there um and I didn't


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pay attention to it you know I sometimes


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wear glasses uh you know prior to this I


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wear glasses all the time now because I


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actually had cataract surgery so I can't


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see anything up close but back then I


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would wear glasses on occasion and so if


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you notice like when you get a smudge on


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your lens or if you have sunglasses you


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get a smudge there you kind of just


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ignore it and think it's just a thing


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and you look through it um that's kind


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of what it was for a while and then uh


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out of the blue I just woke up one day


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and there was a a fog over my right eye


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and I had no clue what that was and um


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went to the eye doctor and it you know


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oddly enough two days before that I had


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just had had an eye exam and I thought


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they put something in my eye that made


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that happen uh turns out that it was


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some cat cataract that just decided to


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like you know yo here we go take off um


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and so I had to end up getting surgery


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all that good stuff like that fast


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forward a month later I have my seizure


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and um that's where the tumor is


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discovered so that I tell you that to


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give context to this misguided


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assumption that happened recently so say


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my doctor has been telling me for the


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last like year or so that I had a


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cataract developing in my left eye um


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but it would take some time and you know


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uh nothing really to worry about yet


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even my cataract surgeon told me the


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same thing so I was well aware of it it


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happening and then um about two weeks


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ago I woke up one morning and it was


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like uh if you ever woke up where you


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have like you feel like you have like


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slime over your eye or whatever you got


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to rub your eye splash some water and


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all and then it clears up and stuff like


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that that's kind of what it looked like


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uh in my head um and I splashed the


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water and it didn't clear up and I was


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just like wow this is really strange and


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then I made it through the day didn't


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really think much of it I did a lot of


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taking my glasses off thinking I had a


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smudge there and it just wouldn't go


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away I I remember getting up washing my


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glasses a couple times you know Windex


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all this stuff like that and it just


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kept happening well then the next day I


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woke up and it was once again we're back


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to the fog over the eye now um I know


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what it was I knew it was a cataract I


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mean I've experienced it on the right


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side now given my previous story I just


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told you now you draw your own


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conclusions of what assumption I made um


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I didn't go to the fact that oh this is


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just another cataract I just got to go


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to my eye doctor and get surgery to get


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it removed and voila I'll have the


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vision of a 70-year-old for the rest of


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my life um no I didn't I went straight


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to oh my God the brain tumor is back and


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here we go again and I spent you know


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better part of a day talking myself off


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of a ledge over and over and over again


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trying to trying to distract trying to


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do different things to get myself off of


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this assumption train and instead I just


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kept kind of building it but then I


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would catch myself because I you know


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one one of the things that my doctor


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shout out Dr G one of the things that he


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did tell me um when I initially told him


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about the Cataract in my right eye was


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cuz I was curious when I first was


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diagnosed if this is uh related and of


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course it's not there's nothing related


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between the two um but even though that


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was told to me I still made that


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assumption and you know fast forward uh


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I had luckily by timing I had uh a my


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newest MRI that was scheduled that week


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as well so it was kind of like that was


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the thing to get to the Finish Line


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right it was like I can assume all this


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stuff but I kept catching myself saying


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like yeah but I get I'm getting an MRI


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on Wednesday then I'll then I'll know


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for sure I'll have confirmation you know


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and it's it's a lot of times where we


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think that you know we sometimes we'll


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do stuff and we tell like the universe


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like you know if you just get me through


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this I promise you know I'm gonna stop


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this um and you know um when it came


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from the MRI I went into it you know


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trying to be calm telling myself the


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positive stuff you know all those good


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things like that but in the back of my


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head I just kept thinking like oh man


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like this has to be has to be and you


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know um


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I did the same routine I do so when I go


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to get MRI I drive by myself on purpose


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I let myself think and feel all those


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things and then when I walk in the door


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and I get an MRI machine I always thank


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the the MRI tech person um and I go into


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some a meditation and just check in and


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know that I did everything I could that


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was possibly good for me going into that


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exam did the same routine again and then


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I you know the next day we have the test


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results uh


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my hospital and um if you've listened to


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any of my stories you you know that


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there's a certain first doctor that uh


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wasn't the greatest and I have not seen


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this person since that day and you know


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truth to be told I don't really care to


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see that person um but just so happened


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that we are in the waiting room which


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usually kind of in right away but for


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this one we are sitting in the waiting


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room a lot longer and I hear a voice and


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I look over and that doctor is walking


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out the door


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and immediately here comes another


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assumption oh my gosh my my doc that I


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that I love and and and I'm so happy is


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on my team isn't here and this is the


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doctor that I'm going to have to see


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because out of all the times I've been


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here in over these three years of


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appointments they've not been there that


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day um that I come in so I assume I'm


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immediately that like it's bad stuff and


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of course it's going to be this doct


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that's going to have to tell me the bad


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stuff again and I let myself roll with


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that train so much that I could feel I


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could suddenly start feeling my heart


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race I could certainly feel like my


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blood pressure going up and it was kind


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of like a really little mini panic


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attack while trying to look cool on the


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outside and even going back into the


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room finally you know back I was


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listening you know for my doctor's voice


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because he has a very distinct voice and


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it kind of sticks out and I didn't hear


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it but I kept hearing this this


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other doctor's voice and at one point


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somebody knocks on the door and it their


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voice sounds a lot like this doctor and


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it was all it was was somebody that's a


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patient advocate of stopping by to see


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if I needed anything um but it


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immediately spiked all of these stories


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all of this stuff and it just started


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you know again that spiral and I don't


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know about you but when I get kind of


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nervous or like get ready on flight all


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a sudden I have to pee a 100 times and


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all stuff like that so I'm like I I need


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to go to the bathroom I get up and go to


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the bathroom and and come back out and I


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can hear my doctor's the the good


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doctor's voice in my room and I walk in


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he's laughing and joking with my wife


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sees me you hey Jason how's it going


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shakes my hand everything's good


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everything looks


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good and it was like this release of


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like pressure and all the stories again


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and it was like going through this cycle


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of all this stuff all over again that I


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had to put my hand on his should I was


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like At first I got to tell you this


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story and I told him a little thing and


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he said I told you that stuff wasn't


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related I know you did that's what


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actually got me through all of this this


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week was this stuff but you know it


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turns out that like I I created a whole


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story based off of one tiny thing I got


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a physical before I left you know uh


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before that week before and I even


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allowed that crap to flow into the thing


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because one of the numbers was off that


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wasn't even a bad thing that I now that


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I got a consult from a different doctor


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it wasn't even a bad thing that it was


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off it was just my protein I didn't know


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what it was rather than looking it up I


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because I learned that Dr Google is not


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your friend uh a long time ago but


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instead of looking it up I just assumed


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like because it was the only thing that


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was high on it that there must be


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something wrong


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and I say all that to just like ask the


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question you know how often have you


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ever done that you make an assumption


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about something that you haven't even


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bothered to experience yet based off of


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some sort of past thing that you've been


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through now I think like me if you can


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recall that pretty quick it's probably


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based on a good reason like I I feel


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like my assumption was justified so to


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speak because it was based on this an


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emotion right it was a pretty intense


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emotion you don't really forget when


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you're diagnosed with with brain cancer


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um and the things that led up to it and


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the awareness so I kind of do understand


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the justification for it um but I would


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be lying to you if I told you that I


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felt like it was something that I should


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have allowed to


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continue and I wish that I could go back


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and kind of just start to ask myself


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this better questions and it's those


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moments that start to you really shape


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the the things that we're learning as


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we're growing and stuff like this and I


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feel that these things are what has


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helped me become a better speaker become


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a better you know coach become a better


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you know writer become a better at doing


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this is being able to understand that


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like just because I have a handle on all


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this stuff doesn't mean that there's not


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going to be more lessons to learn


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there's not new Evolutions in all of


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those


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things and you know so what we end up


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doing is we create these like false


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narratives all the time we create these


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stories that aren't real based off of


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our past stuff and so when when we're


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doing this have you ever noticed that


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you create lines between something that


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that that is completely unrelated I mean


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I think what we do is we we we tie


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together a series of stories to to


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reflect exactly what we're trying to


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feel in that moment if I feel like it's


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back I need to find out every reason why


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it's back and then start to tie all


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those things and they can be completely


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unrelated right think about if there's


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any time in your life where you've gone


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through something similar you know where


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it could be something down to the the


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way somebody looked at you at the


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grocery store


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you make that assumption into adding it


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to the story of you're looking at it


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that everybody's out to get you or


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whatever it could be um I certainly have


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done that myself and I think that a lot


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of us do th those types of things and in


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these false narratives what we're


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actually doing is we're stealing the


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most precious part from us which is time


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it's Joy it's the moment you know I


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spent you know a week and a half


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stealing from myself because I was


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worried about a stupid cataract


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thinking that that cataract translated


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to all of my problems rather than just


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realizing it is what it is it's still


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here right now I still like my surgery


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is scheduled for the 17th and I'm super


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excited um because not because I get to


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have another surgery but because I'll be


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able to see again it's really strange if


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anybody ever wants to know what a


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cataract is like imagine like if you


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wearing glasses you Vaseline your one


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lens it's kind of like that or if you


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ever get out of a shower and it's all


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fogged up


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um and you try to look in a mirror it


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pretty much half of my eyesight is like


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that right now so it's just really


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really annoying doesn't hurt doesn't you


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know whatever but it's just it's


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annoying and so that's why I'm excited


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about that but I I think about like was


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the trade-off worth it was the trade-off


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in all of the the the emotions that I


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put myself through worth the effort of


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of creating these stories and of course


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the answer is no and what I do realize


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though is that like it's another


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affirmation for me that tells me that


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through resilience how much I grow it it


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allows me and it's a reminder to me that


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if I'm going to continue to be this


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person is beating this thing I need to


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make sure that I'm checking in with


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myself and checking in with my awareness


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checking in with the ability to like


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love myself to do the hard work make


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sure that I'm showing up every day being


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very persistent in this thing because


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it's not going to let up it's something


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that it's always going to be something


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I'm going to deal with and I need to


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make sure that I'm empowering myself


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with the right tools to overcome these


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moments these hiccups instead of writing


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a story based off of something to


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happened in the past using what I know


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now to build a future that I actually


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want and what I would encourage you to


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do is is think about those things like


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how often are we doing those those very


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things to ourselves what are we hoping


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to accomplish by living in a world that


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is based off of all things that we' put


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in in the past and tying together two


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things that have nothing to do with the


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other in order to make sure that you're


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feeling good in the moment and maybe


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you're on a a pity party or you're on a


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you know a journey where you're just


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feeling down about yourself and all


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those things like that now here's the


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part that I want to teach you about what


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I learned in this whole thing is any


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point in time I could have just reminded


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myself of what my doctor told me like


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truly believed it right not just like


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you know hey he said it wasn't related


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but really realized that like worst case


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scenario let's say it was what would I


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have done different I I you know what


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like so if I would have if I would have


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just accepted that it is what it is I


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could have probably like taken it and


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and done something with that time that


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was actually impactful for myself and


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others rather than just keep digging up


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something that just had zero impact to


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my life other than to take away the


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stuff that I actually enjoy doing


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because it was in the joy of doing those


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things that you're going to find those


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Escape Routes on your path to figuring


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out who you are and I think often we


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forget that you know most of the time


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what we're doing is we're going down


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through life you know not realizing that


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the experiences you have had that are in


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those negative spaces are the things


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that actually are building you up to the


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places you're trying to go it's to that


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growth and resilience that you find find


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the new version of yourself and there's


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plenty of times for you to sit down and


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take a rest and and and reflect on how


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far you've come and this is how you go


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from building a false narrative to


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building a positive one realizing that


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like there's no good in in reflecting on


16:45

the past stuff you know it's there to


16:48

teach us a lesson and in to the Future


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stuff we're dealing with you know the


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idea that like you know long before you


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know the tumor was there I had I already


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had a cataract growing right eye like


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but for whatever reason I tied those two


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things together you know and then


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immediately tied a left you know my left


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eye to it instead of just like I got bad


17:08

eyes that's it you know um I've worn


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glasses since I was in second grade so


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it's not a surprise that like something


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wacky would go wrong with my eyes um you


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know I am if I'm being honest kind of


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excited about being able to like look at


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the world 2020 uh it's going to be weird


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to like actually not have to put glasses


17:26

on or contacts to see everything in the


17:29

world so like that's a whole new thing


17:31

that's a whole new thing that I can that


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I can actually enjoy um I probably won't


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enjoy the fact that if I leave my


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reading glasses everywhere that I won't


17:39

see anything um but that but there's


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always a trade-off for all this stuff so


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as we grow realize that we have to kind


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of let go of stories our assumptions you


17:48

know really are going to be things that


17:50

hold us back you can't go into every


17:52

situation thinking the worst case you


17:54

know think about the idea um that maybe


17:57

somebody has br brought a movie to you


18:00

and you were like I don't want to see


18:02

this movie I've seen this kind of movie


18:04

a million times it's going to suck I


18:06

just don't want to waste my time doing


18:07

this and all stuff like that and you


18:08

finally give up give into to it maybe


18:10

because you really love this person or


18:12

you know like you're like fine next time


18:15

I get to pick the one or whatever it is


18:17

however it plays out and you sit down


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and watch the movie and at first you


18:23

could be kind of like well this this


18:24

sucks this is horrible but then there's


18:26

some sort of pivotal thing where all of


18:28

a sudden you get sucked into the movie


18:29

and at the end of it you're like wow I


18:30

really am glad that I watched that movie


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think about how many times that has


18:35

happened to us where we are in a


18:37

situation where we come in predicting


18:40

we're predicting one outcome and then we


18:44

finally are in it enough that we Dro


18:47

that prediction and we just kind of are


18:51

and in that we discover that like it


18:53

wasn't so bad I'm actually glad I


18:55

watched that movie it actually turned


18:57

out pretty cool and then you're telling


18:58

somebody else about it and somebody else


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checks out movie and they say like man


19:02

thanks for introducing me to that movie


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this this is our life we make so many


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assumptions about things that are


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completely unrelated create carving


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paths for ourselves that aren't really


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serving ourselves well instead of just


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realizing that it's just the way we're


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thinking in the moment let that thought


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go the same as you've let every other


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thought go don't dwell on the things


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that are that are there to distract you


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when you are in a mission to create


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something that you really want and I


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wanted to pass that lesson on to you


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because I allowed a cataract to derail


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the thing that brings me joy which is


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spreading hope which is helping people


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see themselves in my story being


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somebody that believes that what I think


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about I could bring about it took away


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that from me and all because I allowed


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myself to get distracted um and for a


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huge growth point to to point out to all


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of you listening um this was somebody


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that me meaning me that would in the


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past would have blamed other things of


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course this happens to me why wouldn't


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it happen to me you know all this stuff


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like that um and I'm proud of myself for


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the fact that I didn't allow that to


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happen this time instead I just kind of


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let it be I understood that there was an


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MRI coming up I understood that there


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was an end to this path that I could


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figure out what would happen then and I


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allow myself to kind of go through


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without it just completely der realine


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all my


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days but it did take some moments and


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this is what I really wanted to drive


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home in this episode is just finding


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your strength to overcome the


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assumptions that are trying to steal


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your joy and stop assuming so much


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there's that whole saying that everybody


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always says is like you know you know


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what you make when you make an


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assumption um you make it an ass out of


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you and me um and it totally fits


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because you realize in the moment like


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in hindsight like what you took from


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yourself and I hope that through the


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process of sharing these things that you


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see yourself in my story and you learn


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from these things because the world is


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already full of enough narratives that


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you don't need to build more for


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yourself focus on the story you're


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telling yourself and overcome the things


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that you're not telling yourself right


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and realize that there's so much joy out


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there waiting for you to discover if you


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just get out of your own way and allow


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it to come to you stop building walls


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that are that are stopping the evolution


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of yourself and get to know the real you


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get to sit down with yourself and find


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that you are pretty amazing and I think


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in that process you're going to discover


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that while you make assumptions they


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don't have to control you and that's


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really cool part and the lesson to be


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learned and all this stuff so guys as we


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uh wrap this up I just want to remind


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you that um you know you're doing a


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great job being a human is not easy


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sometimes life is going to kick you


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sometimes life is going to make you draw


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assumptions to things that have nothing


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to do it and sometimes you might just


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get a cataract and realize that with a


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simple adjustment of a nonivasive


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surgery you will be able to see better


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too uh you just need to analyze what


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you're doing be hyper aware of how


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you're feeling be openhearted to do the


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tough stuff for yourself persist every


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day and show up for yourself and when


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all those threes come together you're


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going to feel pretty empowered so guys


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as we say goodbye here too uh just make


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sure that you're sharing this I'm


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looking for two people that's it if you


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know two people that have that could


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benefit from this stuff just share that


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with them and let those two people share


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with two other people and this is how we


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start this evolution of Hope and I hope


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that you take the moment out today to


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find a reason to celebrate who you are


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because everybody else that is sitting


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on the sidelines of their life is


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waiting for you to become exactly who


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you're supposed to be and above all else


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I hope this helps

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